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Augmento · Oct 31, 2005, 08:33 AM // 08:33

ASSUMPTIONS: you like pve. all your slots have lvl 20 ascended roleplay characters (or at least all the slots you haven't set aside for pvp only characters). you really wanna try out a new primary/secondary combination (since we have 4 slots that leaves at least 2 that aren't currently available, more if you have set aside 1 or more slots for pvp only characters).

CURRENTLY: you delete one of your characters. you LOSE all the skills that character ever earned. you go through character config screen. you start at lvl 1 in newb gear with no cash on you.

MY PROPOSAL: you do a pve quest. you KEEP all the skills you ever earned. you go through character config screen. you start at lvl 1 in newb gear with no cash on you.

this gives long term players
1) incentive to replay the low level content.
2) something in return for deleting a character
3) reward for loyalty to the game
4) opportunities to group with and recruit new players

this gives new players
1) more people to group with who will
a) be more knowledgeable players to ask questions of
b) provide opportunities to join well established guilds
c) create a more alive community feel to the game

this gives the devs
1)reduces demand for additional character slots
2)incentive to revamp existing areas of the game and
3) incentive to improve replayability by creating more diverse experience based on profession/race
4) steadily increasing long term player base because the new player experience will continue to be interesting and they will still have people to group with 1 year and 2 years down the road.

Epinephrine · Oct 31, 2005, 12:38 PM // 12:38

Interesting idea - if it reset everything you could unlock all skills on a character much easier. If I hadn't bought 2 copies I'd be all over this

Luthor · Oct 31, 2005, 12:41 PM // 12:41

No... bad.
It would unbalance everything that was meant for low levels.
I'd rather not see a level 1 with all the elites.
People already abuse the low level arenas already.

Sister Rosette · Oct 31, 2005, 12:42 PM // 12:42

Not bad, not bad at all.

/Signed

Luthor · Oct 31, 2005, 01:01 PM // 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Rosette

Not bad, not bad at all.

/Signed

Yes, it is bad.
Everything would become unbalanced.
New players can't get into groups? Because no player wants them.
I can see it now. "Forming group for Northen Wall, must have all elites."
I don't mind the idea of players being able to change their profession, this idea needs to be reconsidered.

kg_lildude1 · Oct 31, 2005, 01:11 PM // 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luthor

No... bad.
It would unbalance everything that was meant for low levels.
I'd rather not see a level 1 with all the elites.
People already abuse the low level arenas already.

you wouldn't be able to use any of those elite unless they took up their old primary as their new secondary

Luthor · Oct 31, 2005, 01:17 PM // 13:17

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Originally Posted by kg_lildude1

you wouldn't be able to use any of those elite unless they took up their old primary as their new secondary

That doesn't change the fact that you can still use an elite.
No level 1 player should an elite. Are you stupid or something?

Sister Rosette · Oct 31, 2005, 01:50 PM // 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luthor

Yes, it is bad.
Everything would become unbalanced.
New players can't get into groups? Because no player wants them.
I can see it now. "Forming group for Northen Wall, must have all elites."
I don't mind the idea of players being able to change their profession, this idea needs to be reconsidered.

HOLY SHIT LUTHOR DISAGREES!!
REPENT!!
REPENT!!!!

The chat sniping is getting old. Damn old. You have made it abundantly
clear that you have your own opinion. LET OTHER PEOPLE HAVE THEIRS.

Luthor · Oct 31, 2005, 01:53 PM // 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Rosette

HOLY SHIT LUTHOR DISAGREES!!
REPENT!!
REPENT!!!!

The chat sniping is getting old. Damn old. You have made it abundantly
clear that you have your own opinion. LET OTHER PEOPLE HAVE THEIRS.

I'm just pointing out a flaw. This is a good idea, it just needs work.
You don't have to get all up in arms just because you don't like me.

Sister Rosette · Oct 31, 2005, 02:23 PM // 14:23

My thoughts on you are irrelevant, what's pissing me off about you is
the fact that you post snipe everyone else's comments and tell them
they're wrong and you're right. In your threads, and these.

Lose the arrogance.

Luthor · Oct 31, 2005, 03:09 PM // 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Rosette

My thoughts on you are irrelevant, what's pissing me off about you is
the fact that you post snipe everyone else's comments and tell them
they're wrong and you're right. In your threads, and these.

Lose the arrogance.

Wait a minute...
Everyone else can have an opinion, but I can't?
Let me quote you some more.

Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by badd
what about fow armor

/you're not helping.

/no

/play pve

/farm for money and supplies like the rest of us

Quote:

You're gonna need a better reason than 'just because' on this
one. Making new armors/skins/etc takes time, money, and effort
on the part of ANet. Time that could be spent on working
on Chapter 2. So make a choice, new armor, or new everything.

/utterly not signed for great freaking justice

You need to get off your power trip and stop being a hypocrite. You can't say let a person have an idea then so around and shut down anothers.
I think you need to stop and look at yourself. You are making yourself look stupid. And just for your information, if you're wrong and I'm right, I'm going to say so and you won't stop me.

Racthoh · Oct 31, 2005, 03:45 PM // 15:45

So basically I create my level 1 character with all of the elites and skills I've unlocked before, thus making the ascalon arenas more of a pain?

Tuoba Hturt Eht · Oct 31, 2005, 03:51 PM // 15:51

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

So basically I create my level 1 character with all of the elites and skills I've unlocked before, thus making the ascalon arenas more of a pain?

Here's an easy fix, just restrict the 'reincarnated' player characters from participating in the lowbies arenas.

Issue solved.

Cheers.

EDIT:
/signed for the idea

SUGGEST:
The quest could be given by Glint, or any other super powerful mage, something like an option to go back in time.

About the previously earned experience points, it will be 'locked' until the player character have ascended.

So the 'reincarnated' character will start offf with 0 experience points, but will retain all the previously earned experience points when ascended.

Align · Oct 31, 2005, 03:56 PM // 15:56

Or you switch back to being L20. Although if you did that youd have to 'remember' the equipment that character had before it changed profession, and I imagine that'd take up quite a lot of space... up to six times as much space, in fact.

Fitz Rinley · Oct 31, 2005, 04:17 PM // 16:17

Seems simple to me.

Allow character to begin with normal skills earned from previous adventuring:

1. Skills costing 10 pts open at 2nd level.
2. Skills costing 15 pts open at 4th level.
3. Skills costing 20 pts open at 6th level.
4. Skills costing 25 pts open at 8th level.
5. Experience is halved when not adventuring with "NUG."
6. One Elite Skill opens at 9th level.
7. Second Elite Skill opens at 14th level.
8. Remaining Elite Skills open at 20th level.

Fitz Rinley

Carinae · Oct 31, 2005, 04:24 PM // 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuoba Hturt Eht

Here's an easy fix, just restrict the 'reincarnated' player characters from participating in the lowbies arenas.

Issue solved.

Or restrict Elites from the low-level arenas, which is something people have asked for already.

/signed

Nighteye · Oct 31, 2005, 11:19 PM // 23:19

/signed

Ideally you'd have 6 or 7 character slots, but lacking that this is a reasonable alternative

Augmento · Nov 01, 2005, 12:42 AM // 00:42

i have found in other games you end up filling all your slots even if you have 8. also, if Anet creates 2 new professions in chapter 2 and gives us 1 or 2 new character slots then we are in essentially the same situation we are in now. having to delete a lvl 20 or buy yet another account. i have 2 already as well.

as far as unbalancing the game, to be honest i don't really understand this argument. a lvl 20 can take a group through all the quests and mission post-searing or run you past them. how would a low lvl with limited attribute points to distribute regardless of the skills be less balanced than that?

KelvinC · Nov 01, 2005, 12:46 AM // 00:46

I agree

Diablo™ · Nov 01, 2005, 12:53 AM // 00:53

Luther was just being dick